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June 17, 2010

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This is something that has frustrated me for a long time.

I see SF at its very basic level as fantasy with futuristic toys. A friend of mine came up with the term Futuristic Fantasy. I think that insisting that SF makes a serious stab at predicting the future, or getting any kind of prediction right, is stifling the genre, and is trying to squish an over-sized foot into a shoe that will never fit it. Sure, some SF has high ambitions, but for me personally, I just want to read, and write, a rollicking story.

Would you notice when it DID predict the future?

[1] There's been a lot of SF by a lot of different SF writers and -- kind of like the old notion of locking a bunch of monkeys in place before an equivalent number of typewriters (yeah, it's an old thought-experiment)till they produce the works of Shakespeare -- it turns out that SF writers have predicted everything.

Specifically, some SF writers have predicted every one of the things you claimed SF hasn't predicted: Civil Rights, Equal Rights and Decolonization movements, the Green Revolution, the creation of the Internet, the end of the Cold War, the beginnings of an information economy, and the slow speed at which humanity is reaching into space.

Go look at things like Brunner's SHOCKWAVE RIDER and Bruce's ISLANDS IN THE NET (for the Internet stuff) or J.G. Ballard (for the failure/slow advance of the space program). On the decolonization score, what do you think one of the genre's primary texts, H.G. Wells's THE WAR OF THE WORLDS, was about? Equally, though, other examples exist like the now-little-known Mack Reynolds's stories about decolonization (not particularly good, but Reynolds was a communist writer who wrote stories about decolonization for John W. Campbell's Analog).

[2] I bring all this up not because I'm making a strong claim for SF's primary role being fully accurate futurology. Obviously, fully accurate futurology is humanly impossible.

Rather, it's because to deny the futurology element in SF is both to deny a historical fact of the genre's development and to endorse the claim of your first poster that SF is just " fantasy with futuristic toys ...Futuristic Fantasy." There's an increasing number of people out there like her with no clue and no desire that SF be anything more just fantasy with, like, robots and spaceships instead of elves and dragons.

There's a story in the classic best SF stories of all time that the SFWA put out in the late 1960s called "The Cold Equations" by Tom Godwin. It's frankly neither very well written nor very entertaining. It's emphatically not "rollicking fantasy with any futuristic toys" since the only futuristic furnishing is the rocket with limited air and fuel that it's set on. And that latter element is the story's point and why it really does belong in an anthology of the classic SF stories.

The notion that SF's primary role is to create thought-experiments that treat alternative scenarios for how the future might be -- and for how the present really is and the past really was -- is an integral part of the genre, starting with H.G. Wells. Otherwise, yes, it is just fantasy with futuristic toys.

In which case, to hell with it.

Bruce: I believe so. At least with predictions about how our current times were supposed to turn out. Of course, if the predictions were as vague as those made by Nostradamus, then all bets are off on determining if they came true

Mark: I'm not sure the examples you give prove your point. For example, Brunner's 1975 novel Shockwave Rider did deal with an internet-like network between large centralized computing systems, as did Bruce's 1988 Islands in the Net. But ARPANET (an early network computer system) was already up and running before Brunner's novel, and by the time of Bruce's novel advanced networking systems were even beginning to be used for commercial purposes. So while both are very good novels, they described already existing technologies--albeit taking those technologies up a notch. To me, that means they were not predicting technologies which had yet to exist.

As for War of the Worlds, it did not deal with decolonization. Instead, it was a very effective novel about colonialism and imperialism. And Mack Reynolds's stories about decolonization were being published in the 1950s and '60s, ie during the time of the decolonization movements. So again, you can't be predicting something if you are writing at the time it is happening.

But all that said, you are totally correct about there being a great movement within SF which sees the genre as "thought-experiments that treat alternative scenarios for how the future might be -- and for how the present really is and the past really was." Amen to all that. But my point is that for too long SF wasn't pitched to the public as being thought experiments--it was pitched as predicting the future. Which is a problem. But that doesn't mean I want to deny the future aspect of SF, or that the genre is merely fantasy with futuristic toys. Far from it.

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